The Rustacean Station Podcast

Daily with Kwindla Hultman Kramer

Posted Fri, 16 Jun 2023 12:31:00 +0000

Allen Wyma talks with Kwindla Hultman Kramer, Founder and CEO of Daily, and João Neves, Staff Engineer at Daily. Daily provides SDKs for building video applications on top of the WebRTC standard using Rust.

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  • [@00:00] - Introduction to Daily
  • [@05:00] - WebRTC Implementation and sharing across different platform
  • [@10:31] - The challenges of integrating C++ with WebRTC
  • [@19:16] - Signaling in WebRTC - Session setup and initial configuration
  • [@22:45] - Challenges in implementing WebRTC standards
  • [@27:21] - Handling and working around platform and browser differences when implementing WebRTC
  • [@30:51] - Daily’s mono repo approach for code sharing
  • [@33:30] - The process of building and releasing code in relation to different platforms and dependencies
  • [@35:57] - Integrating Rust, C, Objective C, and Swift for iOS development
  • [@37:20] - Daily’s automated testing processes
  • [@42:24] - Daily’s network simulation layer in their testing process
  • [@44:00] - The use of Rust in implementing network simulation for testing purposes
  • [@49:15] - Using WebAssembly alongside native code in an application, and the potential obstacles to consider
  • [@50:52] - Crates that are being used by Daily
  • [@52:44] - What would differentiate Daily compared to other solutions?
  • [@55:48] - Daily vs Zoom
  • [@56:38] - Other open-source projects from Daily
  • [@1:01:20] - Parting thoughts and how to get in touch with Daily


Intro Theme: Aerocity

Audio Editing: Plangora

Hosting Infrastructure: Jon Gjengset

Show Notes: Plangora

Hosts: Allen Wyma